Post Committee Meeting Update 22 March 2017
We have now had the March meeting of the Environment, Transport and Sustainability (ETS) committee and the recommendations for a CPZ in HEG have been passed with some amendments: A Full Scheme CPZ in the area south of Elm Grove (Hanover central and including the southern section of EG) and streets in the North West section along Lewes Rd up to the gyratory for seven days a week from 9am to 8pm. This scheme to have some shared Pay & Display spaces. A Light Touch CPZ in the area north of Elm Grove from Bonchurch Rd up to the top of Elm Grove and including Pankhurst and the Top Triangle, also including Hartington Rd, for Monday to Friday only with restricted hours between 11am-12 noon and 6pm-7pm.
This scheme to have a limited number of exclusive Pay & Display spaces. The reason they are Exclusive P&D is that residents in this zone will still have nine hours a day when visitors can park for free.
The proposed shared parking on Freshfield Road will now be for resident permit only to increase parking availability in Pankhurst; with further consideration given to finding some more parking in Firle, Glynde and Clayton Roads and a report made back to the next ETS in June.
Council officers will arrange a further meeting with reps from residents associations in Pankhurst, Elm Grove and Top Triangle areas to discuss any possible refinements and improvements to the scheme ahead of the Traffic Order being published and report back to the nest ETS meeting.
The Road Safety Team will investigate options to reduce speeding/racing along Pankhurst Avenue and to consider concerns raised by residents about increased potential speeding in Firle, Glynde and Clayton Roads should the proposed double yellow lines be installed, and report back to ETS.
A trial scheme will be piloted allowing businesses to buy a number of visitor permits in order to offset the potential adverse impacts of a CPZ. Permit costs will be as currently advertised on the council website. Visitors permits will be allowed as per existing schemes. https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/content/parking-and-travel/parking/parking-permits Residents with Traders Permits applicable until 5pm will be able to park for free for unlimited time in nearby pay & display bays. ie. when returning home from work etc.
HEGLAT knows that even after nearly four years of hard work, these schemes are not perfect and will not suit everyone – that would never be able to happen – but we have managed to negotiate, push and argue with the council (and upset a few people) and whilst some issues are still to be resolved we have made considerable changes to a standard council CPZ. Several of the things listed above simply wouldn’t have been in these recommendations had we not held them to task. Nobody has ever been offered them before now. Watch this space for more info in the coming couple of months.
Parking Consultation Timeline (update February 2017)
March 14th 2017 – Environment, Transport & Sustainability Committee – Decision
Application of Traffic Orders – (21 days) during this time further comments can be accepted
Summer 2017 – Implementation works (where approvals given)
Autumn 2017 Operational Start (where approvals given)
Representations and petitions from residents to the March Committee can be sent in at any time up to one week before the meeting.
Please send to email@example.com in the Democratic Services Department at BHCC.
For further information email the Chair Charis Taylor at firstname.lastname@example.org
Update June 2016
Council to consider findings of Parking Consultation at its Environment, Transport and Sustainability Committee on 28 June 2016.
Update (January 2016) Council officers confirm outline timetable for Consultation
Jan 19th 2016 – ETS Committee – Approval for consultation work – Days / times and Area
March – Initial consultation to residents
May / June – ETS Committee – approval for detailed design consultation
Summer – Detailed design consultation
October – ETS Committee approval for traffic order
November / December – traffic order advertised
Jan 2017 – ETS Committee – final approval.
Feb / March – implementation work
Spring 2017 – Operational start.
Update (6 October 2015)
Council to consider priorities of schemes for public consultation at meeting of ETS Committee on 13 October 2015. . HEGLAT scheme confirmed as high priority on agenda. Update expected shortly.
UPDATE (June 2015) Representation for TES Committee 7th July 2015
“As the result of the transport and parking survey undertaken by residents via Hanover & Elm Grove Local Action Team (HEGLAT), with 1101 surveys returned, we the residents, now ask Brighton & Hove City Council to undertake the development of a mutually agreed proposal. This is to be followed by a consultation on a Controlled Parking Zone in the area, based on the Community Parking Plan as devised and proposed by the residents and HEGLAT. The outline of this Community Parking Plan having already been discussed with, and positively and constructively received by council officers and councillors in meetings prior to this representation.”
UPDATE (May 2015)
Two potential schemes operating in the area Medium Touch for streets south of Elm Grove, potential for Lighter Touch for streets north of Elm Grove. Surveys still to be undertaken and residents views collated for Pankhurst Estate, streets up by Brighton General. Recognition that residents in some streets (Carlisle, Baxter and those around the Triangle) will not benefit from controlled parking.
UPDATE Outline of Residents Proposal (April 2015)
What is being proposed so far? Unique Medium Touch scheme covering the whole Zone
When will it operate? Six and seven day options being considered.
Hours of Operation: 10am-11am, 2pm-3pm and 7pm -8pm..
- Pay and Display during each restricted hour and only during one restricted hour. No roll over or unused minutes to the next hour. Available in 30 minute increments.
- Bays available for businesses and shops FREE up to 30 minutes
- Extra permits for self employed people with a van +private vehicle.
- Closer look at “Passing Points” in certain streets
- Proposals to include more one way streets to improve traffic flow
- More traffic calming measures to slow traffic
- Closer look at proper Bike Storage rather than just Open Racks.
- Special bays of “floating permits” for businesses that have a need for several vehicles such as garages, or businesses with fleet vehicles. These are essential to the lifeblood of the area.
- An option for Zone 1 (south of Southover Street), where the majority of people favoured Heavy Touch, to change to Heavy Touch by joining the current Zone C should Medium Touch solution fail to meet requirements.
- The Triangle (the streets around Carlisle and Baxter Street), Pankhurst Estate and IOW Triangle (Carisbooke, Ryde, Snowdon, Totland, St Helen’s Road) and other areas North of Elm Gove to be excluded if so desired.
- 50% Concession on price of a permit for those on Council Tax Benefit
Elm Grove: Submission of new resident design proposals for Elm Grove as part of development phase prior to full consultation exercise and consideration to be given to the use of chevron parking as a viable way of improving parking capacity in Elm Grove.
|July 2015||B&HCC Transport Committee||Delegation of HEGLAT representatives to confirm extent of resident’s interest in further consultation on some form of controlled parking in the area.|
|July –Nov 2015||Joint Working Group||Council Officers and HEGLAT team to work up residents proposals based on findings from surveys.|
|Early 2016||Council||Formal Consultation exercise on proposals|
|Mid 2016||Council||Results of Consultation|
|From Summer 2016||Council||Approvals and Implementation of Agreed Scheme|
Here are some answers to some of the common questions regarding the surveys which have been going on:
What are the surveys?
these are general transport and parking surveys to find out how people in the area use transport, what kinds of transport they use and how they feel about parking issues in the area. They are about issues on the streets as well as parking
Why did they happen , when pretty recently Hanover rejected CPZ?
Because some people were expressing a concern that the council might come back quite soon with another consultation on parking. Also in some areas people felt the parking has got worse as we are now surrounded by other controlled parking zones, and we are one of the few places people can park free for AMEX, shopping or put their second cars if they live in a parking zone. Other streets were not getting rubbish collected because of parking and some people could not use the pavement. The council are likely to be presenting ideas and proposals, but we felt it was better to come up with our own proposals “a residents plan” instead, if this is what residents want us to do
What will their results do?
The results will give us an idea about how opinions on transport issues and parking have changed (or not) and how people are feeling about any form of controlled parking in the area. The results may also tell us what people think about the reasons for increased parking pressures and whether things like public transport is working well enough for us. They may also tell us if there are different opinions coming from different parts of the area.
Are the council involved?
No – the council are not involved at all. This survey has come about from the grass roots of the people of Hanover and Elm Grove. It is being conducted by the residents, the results are being compiled by the residents and any ideas as to how things can be improved will come from the residents. If the surveys show interest in a proposal it will be us the residents that work out the detail. We will only put it to the council if residents want us to and if the council start to make noises about wanting to have their own consultation.
What are the results?
We don’t know yet. We stared off with a pilot survey of only six streets to see if the survey worked and gradually more people from other streets are coming forward to offer their help in surveying their own streets. The initial six streets were Bonchurch Road, Belgrave Street, Toronto Terrace, Franklin Street, Lincoln Street and Hallett Road – six streets from varying parts of the area.
Since then we have also had completed surveys from Beaufort Terrace and Montreal Rd. Surveys are nearly finished in Queens Park Rd and Baxter St and are underway/about to start in Hampden Rd , Milton Rd, Howard Rd, Newark Place, Holland St, Ewart St, Bentham Rd and Southampton St.
Early indications are telling us that the area is now rather split on these issues, particularly on parking. The area to the south of Elm Grove seems to be more in favour of some form of controlled parking but both the north side of Elm Grove and the east/top side of Queens Park Road are still very much against it.
Use of bikes and buses varies from region to region with most people doing a lot of walking! Cars and other motorised vehicles still stand out as being the most commonly used form of motorised transport particularly for people who need to travel out of the city or to areas not well served by buses. When a street completes a survey the HEGLAT sends a letter to residents with the detail of the results. These are shown by street name in the drop down menu.
What are the options?
No formal options for anything have been discussed yet although the survey has asked for opinions on options such as Heavy Touch CPZ, Light Touch CPZ, permits being charged for at the current full rate, a rate which just covers the cost of administering the scheme, subsidised rates for people on low incomes or keeping no schemes at all.
If there is enough interest we want to work in detail on a plan to suit us the residents of Hanover. It could be a Hanover specific scheme with all sorts of features the council do not usually offer. It could be medium touch for example or could include extra car club spaces, planters, bike racks and the removal of unecessary yellow lines
How do I add my opinion?
You can come to the HEG LAT meetings, e-mail us (email@example.com or see below for specific people involved), facebook message us via the HEGLAT page, tweet @heglat or help in having your street surveyed.
What happens next?
We will continue with street surveys untill the end of October. Then, if the surveys suggest a desire for change in some areas, we shall set up a working group to devise a firm proposal (Oct- Dec) If the working group agree on a proposal this will then be double checked with residents and if residents support the ideas and wish us to present them to the council then we shall do so. We shall also ask all prospective council candidates to support the residents plan before the elections in May BEFORE they are voted in!
Can you help?
This is a community led project and we are all doing this in our spare time, we would appreciate anyone that can help by doing surveys and especially usefull would be data inputting survey results. Contact Dave Gibson -firstname.lastname@example.org who is facilitating the distribution of survey packs to street volunteers or Chris Taylor -email@example.com who is co-ordinating data inputting